Ex-Scientologist Reveals Details Behind 'Dangerous Cult,' Tom Cruise in New
Book
Most people know
very little about Scientology aside from the fact that Tom Cruise, John
Travolta and other celebrities are a part of it, and that it's had its fair
share of controversy over the years. A new book is looking to pull back the
curtain on the mysterious religion founded by L. Ron Hubbard, and the author
certainly knows her stuff. Amy Scobee is a former Scientologist who was in
the church for more than two decades, and worked in the all-important
Celebrity Centers portion of the organization. In her just-released book,
'Scientology:
Abuse at the Top,'
Scobee details all of the troubling things she saw that made her flee what
she once called her trusted religion, but now refers to as a "dangerous
cult." Scobee spoke exclusively to PopEater over e-mail about her
shocking book, her time with Tom Cruise and other Scientology bigwigs, and
the (her words) brainwashing, systematic violence and slave labor camps she
saw during her 27 years there. Her terrifying claims ... after the jump!
Could you explain your role within the Church of Scientology?
I worked in the upper management of Scientology for two decades. For a good
portion of that time, I was responsible for the international network of
Celebrity Centers, which service people in the field of the arts, government
and sports -- people with high profiles in the world who are capable of
creating a lot of influence on the population.
You were a member for 27 years. What was the spark plug for your departure?
I became less and less tolerant of the abuse that I witnessed as it got more
and more harsh. People were very unhappy, family members were being
separated, David Miscavige [the current "leader" of Scientology] committed
assault and battery on my friends on numerous occasions. I could not justify
continuing to support such an organization bent on threats and severe human
rights violations, which were a dichotomy of the stated goals and reason I
joined in the first place. I wanted to help people and create a better world
based on love and compassion for mankind.
Why is there such a big push to recruit celebrities to Scientology?
A strategic priority for Scientology is to bring in big-name celebrities as
they can influence whole populations. If they endorse Scientology, then
masses will want to join, as well. That means expansion, more money, more
members who in turn bring in others. The stated goal for Celebrity Center is
to make celebrities into "walking success stories" of Scientology so they
promote their success and attribute it to what they learned in Scientology.
In the press, there's often articles that are negative towards the
Church. Why would they want to attract more celebrities, and in turn, more
attention?
They think that any negative press is just a result of "disgruntled
ex-members" and should be ignored.
Tom Cruise is by far the most known Scientologist. What types of interaction
did you have with him during your time there, and what can you say about him
as a person?
I met Tom Cruise and members of his family. I did a project to locate
Scientologists for him to hire in order to fill specific positions in his
household -- such as executive housekeeper, maid, cook, nanny. Personally, I
do not have much respect for Tom at all for a few very important reasons.
First of all, I think he has abused his "power" as a well-known figure to
gain special favors from Scientology. I know of several examples of this,
including the fact that I was personally assigned to select his personal
entourage, which had nothing to do with my job at the time. I was a
full-time staff member in the Sea Organization. I did not get paid for that
service, I did not get thanked for that service. I was at the International
Management base in Hemet when he came to do Scientology services for an
extended period of time. The staff members there were not set up to service
a celebrity at that property. People were pulled off their own jobs to cater
to him. I knew of people [Sea org members] doing his laundry, supervising
him in the course room, supervising his counseling, the music studio
conference room was converted to a course room for him, many staff members
were utilized to establish audio-visual facilities in his home. Many staff
members had to stay up day and night, because on the 500 acre property there
were some brown patches on the lawns -- it's in the middle of the desert in
Hemet. Those brown patches could be seen by helicopter per David Miscavige,
and Cruise was going to arrive via helicopter, so we laid sod for days --
night and day.
The other factor is that Tom Cruise has proclaimed David Miscavige to be a
"LEADER OF LEADERS" and announced to all Scientologists attending the
International Association of Scientologists Event in 2004 that David
Miscavige was the best leader and said that he should know "because I've met
them ALL." That's an arrogant statement, plus David Miscavige viciously
beats his staff members. So to give Miscavige all this praise puts in
concrete to Scientology followers to listen to this "leader" who has NO
BUSINESS being in that position because he's DANGEROUS.
Recently, reports surfaced claiming that David Miscavige played Tom
Cruise's confession tapes -- which are meant to be private -- to fellow
church members for a laugh over drinks. Does that seem like something he'd
do, or have you known this to be true?
                               
Yes -- David
Miscavige talked about people's private confidential information. I
witnessed this myself. I included some specifics of this in my book
regarding another celebrity. He also did it to staff -- snickering about
things that came up in their confessionals and TELLING the specifics to
whoever was at the meeting with him at the time. He did that to me. And he
did that to many, many others. Including calling all-base staff briefings
and reporting embarrassing details about supposed transgressions in order to
intimidate people. One of my friends told me how Miscavige and he were
standing outside when staff were walking between buildings -- like for lunch
break or something -- and he pointed to random people giving "tid-bits" on
each one as they passed, to "prove" how much "in the know" he is. It's a
complete violation of the priest-penitent privilege and a total invasion of
privacy.
What was the Church's reaction to his showdown with Matt Lauer?
I was already out of Scientology when that happened. I saw the show and
thought Tom was being very arrogant towards Matt Lauer. I don't know what
the Church response was because I wasn't there, but I presume they would
have patted Tom on the back for "standing up" to Lauer and telling the world
how bad psychiatric drugs are for people.
Scientology often gets criticized for mobilizing when there's a tragedy
(9/11, the
Haiti earthquake)
as people feel they're trying to recruit. What can you share on that?
They ARE
trying to recruit and create good PR for Scientology -- "good works, well
publicized" is the goal, so as to become more accepted in society and to
bring in new members. People are instructed to video [tape] their actions
and get media if they can so this can then be shown at their very frequent
PR events to "prove" to their members how much they are accepted and
expanding and doing good for the world.
Do you think more and more celebrities will lean towards Scientology as
time goes on, or has it hit its
high point
star-wise?
No. Scientology celebrities are already beginning to turn away and have
publicly resigned their membership. Award-winning writer/director Paul
Haggis, actor Jason Beghe and actor Larry Anderson are a few recent
examples. I think more celebrities will walk away as they discover the truth
and cease turning a blind eye to the blatant human rights violations so many
people are exposing inside Scientology.
During an interview with ABC, you detail your experience with
Scientology's purification treatment. You eventually began taking massive
amounts of niacin, which led to some side effects. Could you detail that?
The purification program is supposed to be relatively short, where you
exercise for a period of time per day and then sweat in the sauna in order
to rid the body of any residual drugs and toxins. Miscavige decided that
executives in International Management were "incompetent" as they were "dead
heads" due to past drug histories being "unhandled." So he decided to create
a weird variation of the purification program where many of us were put in
the sauna 5 hours per day for MONTHS at a time. I was on it for 8 months and
I know of several others who were on even longer. You take high dosages of
niacin -- 5000 mg per day -- while on this program. I got freaked out that
my body was being damaged. I had gray matter coming out of my pores and I
asked if it could please be checked into by the lab or doctor, which was
never done. This is the point when I started to plan my escape from that
place. I felt trapped, and at risk both physically and mentally. And it
didn't help to have an abusive and nasty leader dictating our lives at that
point either. I was sent to Florida and I left from there in March 2005.
What good things are there that Scientology does that people may not know
about?
I believe that the study technology has really helped people because I've
read many rave success stories -- where people who could not learn before
obtained simple tools to be able to read and learn and increase their
competence as a result. One doesn't have to be a Scientologist to apply the
basic tools of study, such as using a dictionary to clear words and terms
one doesn't understand in order to obtain a conceptual understanding of what
you are reading and to study a subject on a gradient and to balance the
significance with the actual mass of what you're learning -- such as LOOK at
the piece of equipment while reading the manual!
Scientology believes that one is a spiritual being that has lived before and
will continue to live. This is not unique to Scientology, but a basis of a
lot of religions. They do promote a moral code of love and compassion and
following the laws of the land, which is helpful to those who will actually
apply those concepts.
What are some of the worst things?
-- Family disconnection and their manipulation, blackmail and control
through the threat of being cut off from family, which has devastating
effects, and being denied your "only road to salvation as a spiritual
being."
-- The Rehabilitation Project Force, which I cover in detail in my book.
This is a slave labor camp within the Sea Organization where people who have
supposedly messed up get sent for sometimes years and years. They are
separated from family, segregated from the rest of the group, made to run
everywhere, put on hard manual physical work and paid 1/4 the regular staff
pay -- about $12 per WEEK. I've known several people on that program for
over a decade for minor offenses. It's inhumane and that "program" should be
shut down.
-- The way Scientology goes after critics. It's their policy to utterly
annihilate the credibility of anyone speaking out against the "church." They
have done brutal things in the past along these lines and are still pulling
these stunts currently. I've been followed by private investigators –
sometimes several at a time, my family's house watched, they've tried to get
my in-laws (never even in Scientology) to kick me out of the family, which
they refused and dismissed as a completely insane and evil proposal. They
put out publications with vicious false and defamatory information about me
to hopefully make the readers think I was incapable of accurately reporting
on my observations with regards to their illegal activities.
-- Another key thing is INFORMATION CONTROL. This is a form of mind control.
If one controls what you can and can not see or hear, one is unable to make
a rational decision about that matter. Scientology specializes in
information control -- one is banned from upper levels of "spiritual
enlightenment' if it is discovered that you read anything negative about
Scientology or talked to someone about it. People are put in for routine
confessionals to find out if you "committed this sin." So you are careful to
avoid any contact with the media when it comes to Scientology or to read
about any exposure about what is going on at the highest echelons. If the
general public knew, they would stop supporting Scientology. They would walk
away. They'd have the INFORMATION to be able to make that decision. Instead,
all they hear is what the head of Scientology (Miscavige) reports at their
frequent PR events -- how the expansion is better than ever and popularity
of Scientology is at an all-time high, etc. They applaud, thinking it's all
wonderful and donate a lot of money for the cause to "keep the expansion
going." It's very sad. I want people to have the truth. When I informed a
family member of mine, who had been a dedicated Scientologist for about 30
years, what was really going on at the top of his church, he chose to walk
away and he has officially resigned. That's the logical thing to do. He
still believes the technology itself is beneficial, but will no longer
support that organization – in fact he has also now requested all of his
money back.
Something dangerous about Scientology is that they truly believe that they
are the "only salvation" for mankind. They therefore consider they can do
all sorts of things -- even if it breaks the law -- because it's "the
greatest good" and forwards their overall mission to ensure everyone's
future eternity. Crush a critic into silence, lie on national television,
beat a staff member who is not behaving as you'd like, blackmail people
using family disconnection and other threats to keep them in line, use
personal information obtained on people to smear their name, keep people on
the RPF for years, force staff to work around the clock for almost no pay,
hide evidence that could be damning if it were discovered -- on and on. They
are fanatics about being the ONLY salvation and the end justifies the means.
Germany recently declared Scientology a cult. Do you think that's an
accurate definition?
Yes -- I believe Scientology is actually a dangerous cult. By definition, a
"destructive cult" is a religion or other group which has caused or has a
high probability of causing harm to its own members or to others. Some
researchers define "harm" in this case with a narrow focus, specifically
groups which have deliberately physically injured or killed other
individuals, while others define the term more broadly and include emotional
abuse among the types of harm inflicted. Both physical and spiritual/mental
abuse has occurred, and from what I understand is continuing to occur,
within Scientology -- at its highest ranks. I observed quite a bit of such
destructive action and this is detailed in my new book.
Is there a single most-shocking incident or occasion that stands out in
your mind from your time in Scientology?
Yes -- my realization that I had just spent 27 years of my life supporting
what I now realize is a dangerous and destructive cult -- a so-called
"religion" that hides behind its status as a "church" to cover up crimes and
major human rights violations. My own personal integrity is intact and I am
determined to expose the abuse to hopefully put it to an end.
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